Once Saved Always Saved False Doctrine

Moriel adheres to the foundational doctrines laid by the original Apostles of the first century church. Even back then warnings of false teaching were made. Acts 20:28-30 NASB 28 Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. 29 I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; 30 and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things to draw away the disciples after them.

The false doctrine of once saved always saved was not there for the first 1500 years of church history. It was introduced in the 1500's by John Calvin and is still adhered to today. An example of a current well known preacher of Calvinism is pastor John MacArthur. Many Baptist denominations also adhere to Calvinistic doctrines. Think about what was just said.... adhere to Calvinistic doctrines. One person, Calvin, thinks he knows better than what was given by Jesus and sets a course to deceive the church. Calvinists also believe that God choose who will be saved, rather than the reality that God knows who will be because He already knows the end from the beginning. Once saved always saved seems to be a license to do whatever you please after accepting the gift of salvation. However, this is not supported by scripture.

Once saved always saved is a perfect example of what Paul said in 2 Tim 4:3-4... NASB 3 For the time will come when they will not tolerate sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance with their own desires, 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth and will turn aside to myths.

One of the scriptures Calvinists use to support their claims is John 10:28 As usual, one liners do not tell the full story. Here is John 10:27-30 27 NASB My sheep listen to My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give them eternal life, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.30 I and the Father are one.” One of the key points that Calvinists ignore is that "they follow" Jesus meaning true believers take the teachings of Jesus seriously and do them. Another point that will be addressed is that no one is able to snatch them, but they, themselves, are able to leave.

Jacob Prasch teaches in the Dilemma of Laodicea page 32 that we have been saved (justification) am being saved (sanctification) and am going to be saved (redemption) and he equates that to have been, am being and am going to be born again. These are supported by the following scriptures: Lk 9:23 NASB 23 And He was saying to them all, “If anyone wants to come after Me, he must deny himself, take up his cross daily, and follow Me. Matt 24:13 NASB 13 But the one who endures to the end is the one who will be saved. And redemption: Lk 21:28 NASB 28 But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

Peter and Paul teach the need to continue doing what Jesus taught:

2 Peter 1:10 NASB 10 Therefore, brothers and sisters, be all the more diligent to make certain about His calling and choice of you; for as long as you practice these things, you will never stumble

Paul 1 Cor 9:27 NASB 27 but I strictly discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified.

In the first 3 chapters of Revelation Jesus addresses 7 churches presenting things He considers offenses and spells out ways for change if they are to be once again accepted. Jesus always refers to those who follow His admonitions as he or him who overcomes and describes the rewards given in such cases. The absolute need to follow Him once having been born again is perfectly stressed here.

Jesus warned 4 times not to be deceived in Matthew's account of the Olivet Discourse (Matt 24). If we are always saved once we are born again, then why this stark warning, it wouldn't even matter. A few years a go there were articles from the UK about un-baptism certificates http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1891230,00.html

I even remember there being special ceremonies attached to this certificate. If people sincerely do not want to be part of God's kingdom, wouldn't the once saved always saved doctrine go against their free will? One thing I know for sure about heaven from the prayer Jesus taught us is that that God's will is done in Heaven See Matt 6:9-10: NASB

“Pray, then, in this way:

‘Our Father, who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. 10 Your kingdom come. Your will be done, On earth as it is in heaven.

People who do not want to be there would not want to do His will. We realize that even the angels had free will when we learn that 1/3rd of them followed Satan against God.

See Rev 12:4 NASB:

4 And his tail *swept away a third of the stars of heaven and hurled them to the earth.

and Rev 12:9 NASB:

9 And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

What is astonishing is that the angels knew God and still rebelled against Him, we go by faith.

One could say that they at first agreed then rebelled, so even the angels are not once saved always saved so to speak. See Jude 6 NASB:

6 And angels who did not keep their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling place, these He has kept in eternal restraints under darkness for the judgment of the great day,

If once saved always saved is true, why do we find evidence of people thinking they are part of the Kingdom when they are not. We see this in the parable of the of 10 virgins specifically referring to the 5 foolish ones in Matthew 25. The foolish Virgins did not follow Jesus as He instructed. They did not have oil in their lamps. Oil refers to the Holy Spirit. What about the people who claim to have done things in Jesus name and He tells them He doesn't know them See Matt: 7:21-23 NASB:

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness.’

The mistake of the these people is the same as is mentioned to the church of Ephesus in

Rev 2:3-4 NASB:

3 and you have perseverance and have endured on account of My name, and have not become weary. 4 But I have this against you, that you have left your first love.

Jesus is their first love. They were doing good deeds, but forgot to include Him, just like those in Matt 7 21-23.(see above) Jesus only did what the Father instructed Him to do and He expects us to follow that example. John 5:19 NASB:

Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in the same way

This is more evidence that Jesus did the will of the Father and not His own will. When we presume to do things on our own accord, they are not accepted. See John 5:30 NASB:

30 “I can do nothing on My own. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of Him who sent Me.

Jesus sets the example and expect us to follow. When we are born again this is what is expected... we have to be doers of the Word and not just knowing it.

See James 1:22-25 NASB:

22 But prove yourselves doers of the word, and not just hearers who deceive themselves.23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his natural face in a mirror; 24 for once he has looked at himself and gone away, he has immediately forgotten what kind of person he was.25 But one who has looked intently at the perfect law, the law of freedom, and has continued in it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an active doer, this person will be blessed in what he does.

One of the most intriguing evidence that once saved always saved is not true comes from the prophecy of apostacy, the falling away in the last days just before Jesus returns.

See 2 Thess 2:1-3 NASB:

2 Now we ask you, brothers and sisters, regarding the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him,2 that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit, or a message, or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.3 No one is to deceive you in any way! For it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

There is an argument that these people were not saved in the first place, but one has to then wonder how can one fall away from something that never was.

Interestingly the Parable of the Sower appears in the Bible 3 times. We find it in Matt 13:1-9, Mark 4:2-9 and Luke 8:4-8 This is the Luke 8:4-8 NASB:

4 Now when a large crowd was coming together, and those from the various cities were journeying to Him, He spoke by way of a parable:5 “The sower went out to sow his seed; and as he sowed, some fell beside the road, and it was trampled underfoot, and the birds of the sky ate it up.6 Other seed fell on rocky soil, and when it came up, it withered away because it had no moisture.7 Other seed fell among the thorns; and the thorns grew up with it and choked it out.8 And yet other seed fell into the good soil, and grew up, and produced a crop a hundred times as much.” As He said these things, He would call out, “The one who has ears to hear, let him hear.”

Let's assume they all were baptized... most fell away, so they were not once saved always saved according to the parable.

There is so much evidence from scripture that does not support once saved always saved and that gives me comfort. I was in a small group study where the teacher was using teachings form Dr. Andy Woods. There was a chart that showed that carnal Christians were saved and that didn't sit well with me. It looked like people were not serious and that they only became born again as a get out of jail free card. I know we continue to sin because of our fallen nature. Only Jesus was sinless and fortunately we have the ability to be forgiven, but to be born again and then continue to willfully sin makes no sense to me. I left this group and church and found Moriel. I am so grateful to have found true bible believing Christians and teaching.

I hope this article helps to explain the need to be diligent until the end, be it by rapture or from falling asleep in Christ. Once saved always saved is a myth that deceives terribly.

May God bless you and keep you safe,

With love in the name of Jesus,


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